Me: I think I'm in a rut. How do you get out of a rut?
Scott: You're asking the wrong person. I don't get out of ruts.
Me: You just stay in a rut? Forever?
Scott: No, I move from one rut to the next.
Me: Does that mean, like, you climb out of the rut, and then fall into another?
Scott: I sort of explore the rut and then it turns into another rut, so there I am, still in a rut. But a different rut.
Me: Are you trying to get out of the rut, or just make a left turn and you're in another rut?
Scott: I don't try to get out. I find other ruts within the original rut. I just keep going deeper and deeper into the rut until bam, another rut.
Me: Sounds like you've worked something out for yourself.
Scott: I am a rut-spelunker.